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Hebrews leaving Egypt ahead of the Exodus?

I regret the need to take a stance that might offend somebody here. But the extraordinary theory that the Zerahites, or any portion of them, actually left Egypt ahead of the Exodus of Israel falls to the ground on the strength of Numbers 26:20 .

When I took this article in hand, I saw a statement that the Bible was silent—silent—on the matter of the descendants of Zerah. I find, in my own perusal of the Bible, that It is anything but silent. That verse in Numbers clearly demonstrates that the Zerahites were marching alongside their fellows the Pharezites even in the last year of the forty years of wandering in the wilderness.

Moreover, I remind everyone that James Ussher interpreted the ancient legends of Diodorus Siculus and Eusebius quite differently from the interpretation that I originally found. He states that King Cecrops I was an Egyptian, a statement that I find far more likely than the idea of Calcol being Cecrops. The Egyptians were known seafarers; in the house that I now live in hangs a papyrus reproduction of an ancient Egyptian image of an Egyptian sailing craft with a full crew of rowers and riggers. The Hebrews and Israelites were never known to be seafarers. Recall that King Jehoshaphat attempted a joint seafaring trading expedition to the Straits of Gibraltar ("Tarshish") along with Ahaziah of Israel. That expedition ended in unmitigated disaster.

Now I don't propose to accept Ussher's account any more than an account that suggests that Cecrops was a Hebrew and a Zerahite. But everyone here might as well know: strict Biblicism governs here and must inform all articles.--TemlakosTalk 00:37, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Zebulun is foreotld ot be a Sea farieng people by Jacop in Gen49. And Dan "Abode in Ships" in the Song of Deborah, Dan becomes very linked wiht the Sidonians who are latter known as Phoneaceans.--MithirandirOlorin 11:41, 20 January 2012 (PST)
Yes, that is correct, MithirandirOlorin. Here are some resources regarding the Zerahite issue and whether the ancient Israelites were seafarers: Missing Links of Israel Discovered in Assyrian Tablets, Chapter 4, Pre-Captivity (before 745 B.C.) Migrations of Israel by E. Raymond Capt (the rest of the book is also online at that site), Did the Ancient Hebrews Really "Fear the Sea?" by Steven M. Collins, and Ancient Hebrew Sea Migrations. CelticCreationist 01:46, 11 May 2012 (PDT)
The Invasions of Ireland are frequenlty made much older then they where. Bill Cooper in After The Flood dated Parthalon's invasion to 1557 B.C., Nemed's to 1145 B.C. the Tuatha De Dannan to 701 B.C. and the Mileasan invasion to 509 B.C. I do not support the claims that all Western Europeans are from the lost Tribes, but Dan has a unique history, possible bringing Zerahites with him. But every where Dan went he was latter supplanted by other, only permanently effecting the Royal lines. The descendents of Herakles became outcasts of the other Danoi and took over the Dorians and then the Dorians supplanted the Danaans.--MithirandirOlorin 08:06, 26 April 2013 (PDT)